How to play DINAH ???

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How to play DINAH ???

Postby korto » Thu May 20, 2004 12:34 pm

Hello !! :)

First let me introduce myself... 31 y/o french living in paris... 10 years of electric guitar in all style (blues rock funck etc...) and now... maybe because i m geting older...( lol ) I m trying to play gipsy swing !!!

In order to play with a friend violonist I must learn the song : Dinah...
I found the grid there :

http://www.gadjodrom.com/grille.php3?tune=dinah

in gadjodrom.com !!

But how can I do the Em8 ?????????????? No idea ... I can't figure out this chord... thanks by advance for your help !!!

by the way... hotclub.co.uk is a great site. My first step in this style were done with djangology and douce romance with the explanation found here!!!! BIG thanks to the author !!!!

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How to play DINAH ???

Postby lukejazz » Thu May 20, 2004 1:50 pm

That's just a descending minor cliche' like the tune "Summertime" and many others.

Along with the minor chord just include the line - Root, Natural 7th, Flat 7th. So in Em that would be E, Eb, D.

Many times you see it as four notes instead of three, i.e. E, Eb, D, Db.

Harmonically you'll see it written as E minor, E minor/Major7, E minor7 (and sometimes to E minor6).

Think of it as an embellishment of a minor chord to give it some harmonic motion instead of just sitting on a minor chord.

Also makes a great bassline!

Hope that helps.
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Postby korto » Fri May 21, 2004 5:12 pm

thanks... really ... even if I don't understand very well those armonic stuff... sorry...

roughly it means that I start with a Emin ... and I just move the bass one fret up each two "tchic-boom" ????

If someone could give me a simple tabs of this part.... :roll:
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Postby Thrip » Fri May 21, 2004 5:45 pm

This is one way to play it:

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em/maj7

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em7

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l
l----x---l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em6

The root note is an E on the 5th string, 7th fret.
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Postby lukejazz » Fri May 21, 2004 8:39 pm

Thrip wrote:This is one way to play it:

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em/maj7

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em7

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l---x----l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em6

The root note is an E on the 5th string, 7th fret.


Good reply Thrip but I think you made a little booboo on that last grid (wrong string) - I mad a correction above.
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Postby justjack » Fri May 21, 2004 11:50 pm

lukejazz wrote:
Thrip wrote:This is one way to play it:

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em/maj7

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em7

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l---x----l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em6

The root note is an E on the 5th string, 7th fret.


Good reply Thrip but I think you made a little booboo on that last grid (wrong string) - I mad a correction above.


Actually, I'd agree with Thrip; your corrected grid for the Em6 has a flatted and a sharped fifth, but no sixth (C#). To make this easier, I sometimes drop the fifth altogether, leaving just a three note shape with a descending (E, Eb, D, Db) middle line.
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Postby lukejazz » Sat May 22, 2004 3:56 am

Oops - made a booboo myself! Here's what I meant:

I've included a common fingering at the end of each grid.
After the fingering I'm including the chord tone names (scale degrees) in case it may help anyone who doesn't understand the harmony.

There are naturally, many, many ways to play this cliche' but this is a good basic starting point out of the "A" shape chords.

Thanks to Thrip, Jack , and all - sorry for the mistake.

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l 2 (b3rd)
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l 4 (Root or 8)
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l 3 (5)
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l 1 (Root)
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l 3 (b3)
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l 2 (7)
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l 4 (5)
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l 1 (Root)
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em/maj7

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l---x----l--------l--------l 3 (b3)
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l 1 (b7)
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l 4 (5)
l--------l----x---l--------l--------l--------l 1 (1)
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em7

l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
l--------l--------l----x---l--------l--------l 3 (b3)
l---x----l--------l--------l--------l--------l 1 (6)
l--------l--------l--------l----x---l--------l 4 (5)
l--------l---x----l--------l--------l--------l 2 (1)
l--------l--------l--------l--------l--------l
Em6
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Postby nwilkins » Sat May 22, 2004 2:47 pm

another way to play it is with the descending voice in the bottom note of the chord:

x
x
4
5
7
x

x
x
4
5
6
x

x
5
4
5
5
x

x
5
4
5
4
x
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Postby mitch251 » Sun May 23, 2004 4:25 am

This one has the decending line on top but still works pretty well

x
5 root
4 5th
5 minor 3rd
x
x

x
4 ma7
4 5th
5 minor 3rd
x
x

x
3 Dom 7th
4 5th
5 minor 3rd
x
x

x
2 6th
4 5th
5 minor 3rd
x
x


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Postby mitch251 » Sun May 23, 2004 4:33 am

Oh and lets not forget the one
with the E on the bottom at the 14th fret

x
12 5th
12 minor 3rd
14 root
x
x

etc etc etc


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Postby korto » Sun May 23, 2004 7:22 pm

A big Thank you for your help guys !!! :D :D

If I can't play it with all those great explantions ... I ll quit guitar playing !!!

thanks !!!

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