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The information on the still below from the famous Epiphone film footage claims Django not only played amplified guitar before he went to America, which I am sure he did, but also a full electric.

He certainly played with Michel de Villers and at the "Rodeo Club" in 1946 but I do not know how valid this date is.
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i was told he played this one:

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DennisC wrote:i was told he played this one:

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Thank you Dennis.

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Have you many pictures of Django with his Stimer? - I'd love to see whatever you've got in the archives.
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Ricardo wrote: Have you many pictures of Django with his Stimer?
I'm guessing around 40.
Ricardo wrote:I'd love to see whatever you've got in the archives.
I am hoping to do this http://www.hotclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... 91&start=0 and if I show all the photos I have then even the miserly 15 who said they would buy the book might have second thoughts. That is why I only tend to post low resolution photos so you will all think it worthwhile spending some money to see the real thing as well as read interesting anecdotes about Django that you wil probably not have heard before.

I think I am up to about 450 photos in total at the moment and over the last couple of weeks I have found 3 "new" ones, at least one of which has never been published before.
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That sounds fair enough - I'll be interested. I won't ask you to disclose your source, however I suspect you've chanced upon an old instamatic at a charity bring and buy and discovered an undeveloped film within, the owner of which
suffered fatal asphyxiation on an escargot some time in 1948 - or something.
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Ricardo wrote: ...... however I suspect you've chanced upon an old instamatic at a charity bring and buy and discovered an undeveloped film within.....
That's not too far off the truth sometimes and speaking of 1948, I have just received an incredibly rare photo of the string quintet in concert in Paris, March 1948 with Challain Ferret on one of the rhythm guitars. :D :D :D :D

Just had a quick count of the Django with Stimer photos and I found 44.
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Whens the book out then Teddy?
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With the help of Papi and Spatzo, we have proved that the Epiphone clip was from 1946. It appears in a French newsreel from 30th May, 1946. There is also separate information to indicate that Django played at Le Rodeo with Michel De Villers in May, 1946.

So Django not only played amplified guitar before he went to America, he also played a proper electric guitar contrary to every claim previously made.

It also brings into question the claims that Django was given and played a white Epiphone whilst in America.
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To think that this forum is actually helping and bearing witness to the expansion, verification and propagation of Django-related knowledge, rather than just being a place to read Cabo's latest knob jokes.

I'm welling up. Thanks, Teddy.
They may be drinkers, Robin, but they're still human beings.
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Jono wrote:I'm welling up.
Not a pretty sight I would imagine.

A study in concentration at the Rodeo Club gig, May 1946:-
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The version of "Nuages" on the original 1946 newsreel film is not on any Django recording and was almost certainly taken from the "live" gig even though the sound is not synchronized. - That's Andre Jourdan on drums behind Django in the pic.
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The guitar in question:-
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